DROP GERRARD, LAMPS FOR BARRY

I think that you are wrong. Play all three of them together at one time or another until the manager comes up with the combination that he thinks is best. England need to built a young team NOW but must have one or two older players to show the way.

You're mad. With Hargreaves and Barry where does the attacking threat come from? Bentley and Young are neither good enough, nor experienced enough to shoulder that responsibility, and it's ludicrous when you have two world class attacking midfielders in the squad. Keep your Hargreaves and Barry (Although I'd prefer Carrick) and have them sit back, giving Gerrard, Lampard or both the freedom to attack.

I actually agree with you! Despite being world class players, Lamps and Gerrard dont do it for England. Have Hargreaves and Barry sitting and let the other 4 attacking players do there stuff. If you look the all the top nations at the moment there are a few players who are not that well known, but it works. Look at the German team. There defence is average, attack is average, but yet they are in a final. Spain defence is average, midfield average yet they are in the final. Next england team should be:
James,
A.Cole,
Terry,
Ferdinand,
Richards,
J.Cole,
Barry,
Hargreaves (Beckham maybe),
A.Young,
Rooney,
Ashton.

Gerrard and Barry compliment each other very well, i say bench Lamp's and rotate during games. Spain and Turkey have benched their stars, but they have all came off the bench to make big impacts on the game. Keep all of the big name stars on their toes and we will see a bigger, less arrogant England.

Well...You are right that we have to think about the team than individual players and I think you are right also to say DUMP BOTH GERRARD AND FRANK LAMPARD because they are not good enough to play for England.You are absolutely right we need players who are hungry to play for England like Owen Hargreaves.
Luis Aragones has left Cesc Fabregas on the bench because I think Xavi and Iniesta are both better than him. I reckon Spain don't need Cesc Fabregas. May be is good for Arsenal but I don't think he is better than xavi and Iniesta defensively.

follow your logic and you'd end up with a national squad full of qpr players. like it or not, stars are stars because they've got star quality. And that's what england needs. it's a game, a form of entertainment. fans don't want grey individuals like Barry, they want sex-on-legs Beckham and old-but-dim Lamps.

"Spain defence is average, midfield average yet they are in the final."

You are shrooming, aren't you you? Spain have easily the best midfield in Europe right now, regardless of who starts and who doesn't. Senna for example is brilliant, regardless of how less-fabled he is compared to Fabregas et al.

Not sure how you can dispense with the attacking midfield position (and thus essentially play 4-4-2) given England's strikers have failed to pass muster for a few years now. If Rooney was the best player in the world then sure, Gerrard could perhaps be sacrificed ... otherwise, twould be madness.

Good idea and I like the idea of playing for England on a more regular basis but I know that when the proper matches come about I'll not be playing, because everyone and his cat knows I'm not really that good.

spain and germany have AVERAGE midfields? who are you comparing them to. your own? well lets do a comparison.
ballack vs gerrard. michael ballack any day.
frings vs. hargreaves. no difference.
senna vs. hargreaves. no difference.
xavi vs. lampard. xavi
iniesta vs. gerrard. iniesta.

these are classy international players who know how to keep the ball. england cannot keep possession for more than 2 minutes. gerrard, all he does is run at pace, smack 50 yard hollywood passes hoping someone will get there, OR he smashes 30 yard shots. benitez plays him top with gerrard because he knows he cannot control a game from midfield. until england find midfielders who can control a football match, they will win squat.

and to those who want barry and gerrard. where is the holding player? barry was exposed as a holding midfielder in games like russia away. he's an elegent competent passer, but he's not as strong a tackler or tracker back as hargreaves. him and gerrard would be exposed by the best national teams. or should i say the "average" ones like spain and germany.

play owen and rooney up top, play to their strengths. dont knock long balls at rooney and then ask why hes not scoring. and KEEP BECKHAM he's the best player you have he's quality he doesnt waste possession and he uses it well. england seem to think they have this wealth of talent, well where is it? not in austria or switzerland. its on the beaches. dont blame it all on a coach.

and finally, what can barry do that michael carrick cannot. capello is mad not to play him.

this would work if only hargraves and barry play all the time for there clubs hargreaves isnot first choice at united and when barry goes to liverpool i do'nt think he will play that much
team
carson,bridge,rio,terry, richards,young,j cole,rooney,carrick,barry,crouch .
gerrad, lamprad,a cole,owen,james,

Every thing In England team nedds to be redone.Gerard and Lampard in the middle of the park England don't have a creative player who can make beautiful dribblings and make final passes.with both of them it doesn't look like a football game rather it looks like a serious job at a big Iron producing plant.it is a must avoid to watch.Capello deosn't look promising having used same faces again.after all what is Crouch doing there?is Capello serious in winning big games with the squad we saw recently?complete joke!

Dont think you know what your talking about. Spains dream team of Cesc Fabregas and Xabi Alonso, who says you, xavi was always going to play, probably first name on the team sheet, if you ask spanish journalists they would Xabi Alonso was never close to the first team. Get your facts right first.

Shep. You're having a laugh?

It is inconceivable that any right minded person would pick Barry infront of either Gerrard or Lamps. Just on goals and creativity alone Barry will always fall short at international level. Barry is a good premiership player without having the bit extra to be considered international class.

Until we have a manager who has the guts to drop the stars when they are not on form, we are going nowhere. How many more times are we going to wait for Owen to poach a "real striker's goal", even though he is not even in the game, before we play someone in form? Not having qualified for Euro '08, we should use it as a time yo build, not rebuild with Becks. A good manager would get the best out of Lamps and Gerr, if they really want to shine for their country.

I'm just trying to remember the last time any of managed to see the 'International Class & creatitvity' that Lampard has offered the England team over the last 2 years. I think Tim needs to look at the last 10 games Barry has played in and just look and see how many goals he's created and oh yeah he did score in his last game too.

Lampard and Gerrard should never play in the same team again. And Carrick is an average player who no Man Utd fan can call a goal machine/play maker.

Typical Premiership arrogance saying Alonso and Fabregas are more illustrious than Xabi and Iniesta. Alonso is not good enough for Liverpool and though Fabregas had a great start to last season he faded towards the end. Xabi and Iniesta play are regulars for Barcelona, how can you argue they are not as illustrious?? As for playing Hargreaves, isn’t he now a full back?

Unbelievable that people still think Lamaprd should play for England. He's been worse than useless for about four years. He's the kind of player who can only perform with other world class players around him. He looks good for Chelsea because he's got Essien and Makelele doing all the work. All he has to do is make a few box-to-box runs and get on the end of things.

As for Gerrard, he's a right-wing back. Nothing more. Great engine and a good shot but wasted in central midfield, as he can neither pass nor tackle. The likes of Xavi, Iniesta and Silva are different league to the supposedly world-class Gerrard.

I see your point three coaches all trying to find places for the so called best midfielders in the world (ha,ha).
Gerrard should be played behind Rooney, Lampard in midfeild along side Barry, Beckham on the right and Downing on the left.
Why Owen is being picked is beyond belief he is at an average club playing average football. Keegan gone at christmas everyone is forgetting when Keegan was at the club last time he bought his way out of trouble but now he cant because of the transfer window so we get to see what an average coach he really is.
Terry for captain without a doubt the Chelsea and Man utd league match showed why Fredinand should not be captain for getting into stupid rows with the ref and the other players on the field. Terry kept his cool throughout controling his players and Man Utds and made ferdinand look hot headed.

Utter rubbish! Gerrard is consistently the best player in the Liverppol side and the top English player in the Premier League. Unlike others, he has the pride, passion and skill to win games for England. However, everybody concerns themselves of the whether Lampard should be in the team instead. There is no competition at all. This is proved now as Lampard is up for grabs. Where are ALL the top teams looking to sign him? If Gerrard was available, all would be. How many other English players would have the same? Not many at all. Capello is trying to blend the players into a world beating team. I think he had the knowledge and experience to know best!

Yes Barry definately worth 17 million as far as today's prices , and Ifor don't think he is a greedy man and would like to see him at a club that is worthy of him , being a Chelsea supporter I would love to have him play for Chelsea , he is the best left footed passer of the ball in England and without doubt should be one of the firs names on the England team sheet with the other all heart Englishman John Terry

Ok good plan that.But to an extent because let's face it:Barry and Hargreaves are no great sakes at attacking so why not play them as two sitters and Beckham should be dropped(you were spot on there).The right should be given to Young OR Bentley and Cole operates from the left.Wayne can be the lone striker and just behind him should be Gerrard(you can't be serious about dropping him.Should have seen his link-up with Wayne and Barry).Steve could pull all the attacking strings so it ultimately leaves no spot for Lamps(sorry mate).Capello should try this and voila:you have yourselves a championship winning team.
Next 11:
James(no replacement:he's the best)
Terry
Ferdinand
Bridge(Cole looks out of sorts)
Brown(Maybe even Richards)
Young(or Bentley)
Hargreaves
Barry
Joe Cole
Gerrard
Rooney
Formation:4-4-1-1 OR 4-2-3-1

I don't agree with you, I think Gerrard should be the captain of England he is one of the modern game natural leader(not perfect), he can find the extra resources to make the difference when faced by adversity and he is the only English player who have that and he could probably bring it out of Ronney too and inspire the rest.
but unfortunately the media only focus on his introverts side.
now for lampard I have no comment he is a very good footballer,but he need to be told his place in the picking order.

the problem is too many midfielders on the pitch. If you look at past years we have had 2 strikers and the likes of shearer, owen, lineker etc up front goal machines at any level now owen has lost his ways slightly, crouch is only a threat against minor teams and with a fair amount of teamwork which england have lacked since sven left. Rooney isn't a Striker in my opinion he is more of a foward Like he proves at man utd where his role is to run at defender and just hassle everyone.

Also I don't Like the Defense at the Moment. England Have Some of the biggest named defenders in europe like Terry, Cole, Ferdinand, Richards, etc but i look at our defensive record its terrible i think we needed a constant defender like woodgate or even carragher back these are the best tacklers and i think woodgate is good in the air and carragher at anticipating .

But the Squad I would have Is

Goal - James

RB-Brown
CB- Woodgate
CB- Ferdinand
LB- Cole/Lescott/Warnock
RM-Bentley/Beckham
LM-Downing
CM-Hargreaves
CM-Gerrard
ST-Defoe
ST-Crouch/Owen

Where England go wrong is the never decide how they want to play and pick players accordingly. Not the other way round! The lesson of the Euros has been fast teamwork - when did England ever do that?

whats with this sucking up to kazim richards, even his own teamates dont care for him much, he was rubbish, couldnt make a single pass, he honestly just looked lost....so stop jumping on this so called band wagon.....

they play xabi, iniesta and senna because they rate them higher than alonso and fabregas, not because he drops the big names..... if you recall, wheres juaquin, he not there because aronez had personal issues with him, raul, although the entire country wanted him there, he wasnt included becaused aronez is that type of manager based on his pride, and doesnt go back for anyone no matter how hard they try i.e juaquin !!!!!!!!