what a (new) false dawn for the boys in white! remember 5-1 against germany? what did you win after that? nowt.


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they played against no good defence! sorry


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Aj put a team of fifteen year olds if they are good enough you are never to young but half of these are to old. finished.


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england are about to get a serious blow in 2 days time when play Croatia...they lose 3-0 at least


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I get the feeling that many fans still think we have world class players - we have not.

Capello must now realise what he has taken on having seen the technical limitations of most of our players at close hand. I fear Croatia will give us another footballing lesson in technique and movement.

When some call for Beckham's return to sling long crossfield balls towards the far side of the area it tells you that many fans have still not grasped the problem. That is that English players are exposed at international level as being unable to do the basics of pass and move and keeping the ball. I think Capello would love to change this but he won't be given the time. The FA said his appointment was a long term project but as we know the fans and particularly the media, will not accept that because many fans still think we should turn out world beaters and the media won't have patience, because that does not sell papers.
Here we go again.


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You keep saying its not Cappellos fault well he keeps pickin the same old players that have been failures for the past few years why worry though 6 million a year helps thanks.


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Downing out off hiis depth at this level Johson not a clew Beckham is usefull for the odd free kick and corner nothing else we only played the mighty Andorra not argentina.


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Same old, same old. Every time the international season starts the press big up England's chances way,way beyond the level of reality. We have good players,of course but as a team - for the last 30 years we have been COMPLETE OVERRATED RUBBISH. OK we invented the game - but its moved on. Reasons for Failure? 1. Money. Too much in salaries, too little in developing future talent. 2. Far too many foreign players in The Premiership. 3. The Blame Culture. When X is changed for Y - all will be well. Frankly, any random selection of our Olympic Squad would have performed better against Andorra than our National Team. 4. Pride. Outraged players maintain that they don't lack it. In my book, they simply don't have enough. if we have to recruit a non-English speaker to motivate the team there's something seriously,terminally wrong.


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It's not Capello's fault that some of those highly paid footballers think more about going out clubbing or s****ing. He needs to start looking for players who want to play for England with pride and not because they play for some of the biggest teams in the Premiership. Sack John Terry as captain as well!


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I watched every game at Wembley in 1966 when England won.
this bunch of complete losers are a disgrace but just highlights football in England is about money not national pride or passion
Until we play more English kids in the Premier will any semblance of a decent side emerge
Just look at the real men that played in 1966 then compare the wimpy whiny bunch of overpaid underachieving freakoids that represent this one decent football nation.
Play the the U21 side as our national team please
PS pay Sentana that Irish bunch of greedy foreigners to watch the total crap called England? even I am not that stupid


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The coach is playing young players. He played Walcot, Downing Johnson and Lescott. Do you really want a complete team under the age of 25? I don't think so. The fans have always wanted a couch with passion. Capello was giving it to Joe Cole even after he scored twice because the coach wants to win. More so than the players. Lets face it, the message is not getting through because the palyers are thick!


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Fabio Capello is and always will be one of the best managers in the world. Be patient, have faith, he will turn things around starting I believe from Wednesday. English players are very good if they play without fear, once they start winning the fear will go, trust me. I strongly believe England will do very well in South Africa. The Premier League is only good because of all the foreigners (players, managers, owners) without them it would be a very different game!


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At least Beckham gives one hundred percent....He might be older now but still cuts it compared to some of the other rubbish and he still has the passion...Leave him in the squad!


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Get some young blood in IF? we get to the next world cup we still goin to rely on Beckham nearly 36 James 40 Heskey 34 Neville 35 the list goes on Capello is the same as all the other managers no bottle.


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Don't know why you are all preaching about bringing Rooney out & he does nothing for England...Rooney should have been playing where Defoe was for a start, Capello will get more out of him right up front. His game has changed since the 2004 comp but he's just as good now as he was back then, he's just always put in the wrong position. NO WONDER he gets frustrated!! I would. Take beckham out I say, keep bentley, or lennon on the right and always use Joe Cole...problem is with the england manager(s), there's far too much change in the team!! need to have a consitent line up, that's how england will start winning. give me the job lol. cheers


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Completely agree with LIZ's commnents, why not play Milner and Agbonlahor ?? instead of plonkers like Rooney and Lampard. Croatia 3 England 1 ( if Owen plays ) !!


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How do we change things? start looking at the championship for some players who run for 90 mins have a clear out, same old same old players that failed mclaren now they are failing again, have some guts// capello and clear out the deadwood. And then put in a 5 english players to start in the premier league rule before we all need to take a language course to talk to the players, What ever happened to come on albert, come on syd, now its come cucci,come abdul, come mohamed, lets get back to basics please........


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England WILL NOT win anything in near future. Open your eyes, guys. Don't you see what this team's lack of? England needs a REAL striker! Rooney is NOT the answer!!! Nor for Manchester United neither for England. Blame him first, not Walcott or Capello.


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I agree, too much money involved. There is a complete lack of passion within the England team, they should be proud to wear the 3 lions on their chests!


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Blame it on Rooney. Whilst at Everton 2004 they finished 17th in the Prem. The year after he left 2005 Everton finished 4th in the league. What has he brought to England? Everyone hypes him so much. I think so much attention is paid to him the rest of the team gets shafted. Trust me get rid of Rooney and the team will be top class. Look at Everton with out him... Proof positive he brings down an entire team.


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ashley cole pushes to far upfield and gets in downings way if you let downing play like he does for middlesbrough you would see a different player should drop ashley cole and play wayne bridge' bridge and downing link up a lot better on the left


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I have got to agree with Judd. The premier league managers are ruining our chances as they do not want their top players putting in 110% for England. I understand they dont want their best players getting injured but we cant expect to win anything if our top players are being ruled by their club managers. England expect to much, I mean we are not even in the 10 top of FIFA's rankings so we cant be the world class team that England fans think we are.


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Capello?
More like Crapello!


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Got to say - I'm not surprised at the lack lustre performance. It was the same as all the rest since we were last in a major competition -carry on like this and it will be a while until we're in another.
I don't think we should slate players such as Beckham, Owen and Gerrard - atleast they know the meaning of the 3 lions as do the younger ones, Hart, Richards, Milner and Agbonlahor (just like their U21 coach). However, the pride of wearing the shirt seems to have bypassed a whole generation of over paid & over hyped players and the blame for picking such players lies with the England Manager.


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I think you should just lay off Capello. All England fans do is blame every manager that is in charge. Even if we had Fergison as manager it would not make a difference. Why?? Maybe we should look at the players or more to the point the premier league managers. For instance Gerrard is "injured" for both of Englands games but what a co-instance he will be fit to play Man U on Saturday. This is the real problem England have. Players would rather play for their club than their country and it is a constant war with premier league managers to allow players to play for their country!!


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We keep blaming manager/coach each time we mess up,but the players must take the blame also.As a nation we are no where as good as we think,just because the players earn insulting wages it doesn't mean they're world class,it shows everytime a major event is on offer.Jamie Carragher summed it up when quoting on a missed pen for England but saying at least it wasn't for Liverpool.The Rep of Ireland showed more idea and class last night than England.


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I am amazed that England still have such difficulties in putting together a competitive team. You've had some of the best managers in the game at your disposal, yet England just cannot seem to rise to the occasion.

Indeed, there has been some "what if" scenarios, when penalties were all that stood between a place in a semifinal, but it seems that there is just not enough true talent to go around for England- but you DO have a talented manager who's track record speaks of "win win win", so go easy on Fabio, and keep the faith!


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I can't understand why Capello is picking teh smae old faces. England have some good your players. I was at the U21's on Friday. Milner and Gabbi should have been in the first squad.
Joe Cole would always been second name on my teamsheet after Steve Gerrard.
It's strikers we are having touble with - I don't think you can keep Owen out of the squad just for his fantastic games/goals ratio.


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Why are we still playing the same players who didn't get us through to the euro finals. Germany , Holland , Spain would get rid of bad rubbish and start rebuiling with the kids . How long must Milner, Agbonlahor , Hart and co wait to get a chance to show us that they are ready and actually want to play for their country .


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Capello = £6m a year for doing nothing right!!

Crouch has an ace record against poor teams like Andorra & would've provided height against a team always bound to defend in numbers. Owen scores goals when available, simple as. The two don't even make the squad!?!?

But Bullard does?? And Lampard and Rooney do despite doing NOTHING for England for 4 whole years. Why oh why is Downing in the team over Joe Cole???

I'm glad I've given up on watching England. Question to all those eejits who booed: You knew this was going to happen, so why waste your dosh going to Barcelona to see it??


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What a great game ,I mean the passing was great and the finish superb. That was the pub team I watched the other day !!.Then I came home and watched that shower .We should just play U21's and sack the rest.


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ahahahahh, the so called stars are making to hate football. can someone tell me what is happening in the dressing room. the main problem with these players they don't like each other that s for sure. and the english people just care too much about big names. they should just do like spain. don't care about how big is your club and yourself. if you don't wana do the job , there is someone else to be chosen .
torres for raul= euro2008. raul playing for spain for 17 years=nothing.


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fabio is complete waste of time and money!
downing should not even be in the squad or bullard! why not pick an extra striker like owen or gabbi who would of got a trick lastnight and would of built up confidence for himself and his team.
what a joke were turning into once again!!!


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Doesn't really matter which manager we have, our strikers never score. Beckham if it was Spain would have been put out to pasture. We just dont't have enough players that can perform at international level.


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I don't see why you are laying the blame at Theo's door he was one of the best players on the pitch.

Get the players in that want to play for their country not those that think they can just turn up. Some of these older players were bloody awful last night -
Why not play Joe Cole from the start, that would have really broken down Andorra?
Lampard and Rooney did they even show up?.

You really have to feel sorry for the hoards of travelling England fans

Stop putting blame on Capello - they players are primadonnas, overpaid and lazy.


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Well, what a palava. I dont blame the manager, i blame our highly over-paid and rated players. We should be, in theory, be beating teams like andorra 5, 6, 7, 8 nil away from home. We wont qualify, if we dont, the F.A must seriously look at the state of our international game and how its affected by our policy of not clamping down on the Premiership and the foreign legion of players. They must put a rule in where it should be 5 English players minimum playing at any one time in a league game.
Or maybe we should give the U21's full international caps, they seem to have more passion about playing for England.
Shame on the full international England players


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We not good enough........................


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Why is it Lampard always seems to be the scapegoat with fans? He actually led the midfield last night. Had a couple of shots. Was involved in both goals. Rarely gave the ball away. One England's better players on the night. I would still like to see him and Gerrard BOTH in centre midfield. I cannot recall a game when that happened? Normally Gerrard is on the left.

Rooney was non-existent in the first half, but improved in the second. Barry was nowhere to be seen and has probably shown what he really is. A flash in the pan. As for Downing, Capello clearly did not watch any of the tapes from England games when he played. He is totally useless and should never play for England again.

If Cappello was 'resting' players for the game on Wednesday, WHY?? Surely a manager would want his best team to play together as much as possible so they get to know how one another plays.

My team for Weds.

As it finished last night except keep Beckham out and Lampard in. Ferdinand for Lescott. (Although he did very well).

Some are saying Brown should come back in for Johnson. Trouble with Brown he spends too much time in the top end of the pitch and not doing his job defending. That was why Beckham was so ineffective in previous games. He was too busy doing Brown's job.


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I feel sorry for Capello, because he has inherited a bunch of clueless overpaid footballers who cant pass a ball, cant run with the ball, and cant shoot.
I fear that we are going to get a thrashing from Croatia, and then we are going to have to listen to all their excuses about being tired.
If only they were like other athletes and did,nt spend all their time in night clubs.


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Its all wrong......Capello is just another mercinary, just like Sven. The people that really lay at fault here are the FA. Trevor Brooking and all his inadequate cronies should go. The other major problem is the Premierships fascination with money and foreigners. Don't be fooled into thinking the Premiership is the best league in the world, because it isn't, its just the richest and the most watched. We have to ask why counties like Germany can still turn out a world class international squad.....they cap the number of foriegners that can play in their domestic league (Which in turn keeps wages lower). As an Englishman abroad I can honestly say that the performance of the national team, in what is heralded as our national game, has become a worldwide embarassment. England, The FA, SkyTV, The Players and us fans as well, should all be ashamed that we let it get this bad. Its time for a complete rethink. I fear however that things have gone way too far. English international football is dead. The argument of "Club or Country" has well and truly been won by the Clubs. Money talks.


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I read some comments on Fabio Capello but a bit of respect for a Champions League Winner.

I believe England has some good quality players but not wolrd best class players.We expect to win every match and be world cup winners but nowdays the football level for smaller countries has risen to a big level and are difficult to beat.

Blamming the players for luck of commitment to country is a big mistake. Everybody who puts on a English shirt is very proud to play for their country but perhaps we should realise that England are not as good as we think they are.


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after not qualifing for euro 2008 theyshould hang their heads is shame ,they are a disgrace
look what team gb did .
too much money


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1.England players are limited

2.Capello is useful when he works with players 24/7 otherwise he is lost.

3.The fact that he used the rotation for captains,proved that he is still not very confident and wanted to offload serious crit with a useless gimmick.

4.Capello talks big; 'must be confident','technical and tactical situations' 'we should have scored more' and all that but he's not all that brilliant. Look at Giovanni Trapattoni who inspired a rather limited side to a much improved level.

5.Come 2010 and England's only success remains the 1966 triumph at home.

TONY FORMOSA


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As long as the FA continue to appoint puppets then we will have to endure this dross. It seems that when a new England coach is hired there is renewed hope that maybe, just maybe he will pick the best players available. Yet every time he names his first team we see the same names as the previous coach. Capello drops Owen because he hasnt been playing much of late, yet he picks and plays Beckham....Beckham who cant even help his team win in the MLS, three months and counting since they last won. Lampard should only be allowed in the stadium as a fan because most fans could play just as well has he has in an England shirt. The current bunch of players has become too comfortable knowing that regardless of the performance they put in they will still be included in the next squad.
What England needs is a coach who will come in and have a major shake up. Younger players like bentley and Milner need to be given a chance to show that they either have it or not at the next level. trouble is as England fans we have become used to mediocrity.


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I used to laugh at Scotland but now I think we are worse than them, they got no stars and we have 11, so what's up with our team is that we have no barrs iron bru


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i have been watching england home and away for the last 18 years like many other fans i have spent a fortune following the national team the last 6 years have been a joke money as taken over are players have lost the passion and am sorry to say most of the biggest fan club in the world have to we are the fans the uk press love to slate the same fans that spend thousands of pounds in countrys that rip us of but yet we still travel all we ask as fans is that the players with there £100.000 cars show some passion and give there all for 90 minutes players like ian wright terry butcher brian robson and yes david beckham did this. after the final whistle they would come and aplaud the fans win or loose the englands present players dont seem to care if they win ore loose or about the 1000s of fans who travel or thats the way it seems to us so yes again we boo are players and parts of the press slate us for it its about time these players woke up for all there money and big houses and huge egos they will never be world class they can flash there ch/L medals or prem/lea but what will they say when there son or daughter while watching the world cup final asks dady did you ever play in a world cup final no son comes the reply i like many other english players were over paid over rated but son i do have lots of money


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If someone like jamie carragher cud make those comments, then it tells u all.... Some of these players just aint bothered, they all get abt £50,000 and above every week in their clubs and they just look forced when playin for england... No manager will be ever good enough for england because its down to these players to perform, they are all in their clubs startin lineup so for them not to perform you know theres sumfink rong there.. Stop putting all the blames on the manager because he dint teach them to misfire infront of the goal. For £6mil a yr.. we'll all get that job. I mean who wouldn't??


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Capello must go he is lacking in passion, skill and why pick these old men who never performed when young. Beckman what a joke his team cannot win in a crap league so why on the bench? Why Heskey how many goal;s 1 every 50 games for England? Croach is the man lookat the record best ever on a games played basis. CAPELLO OUT AND OUT NOW


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I commented in the Times that England will scrape past Andorra and will get beaten if not hammered by Croatia. I still stand by that. We have the best league in the world but are we will never be a world force!! I feel for Capello because being an England manger is as bad as it gets. But for 6 million I would do it!!


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You guys keep blaming the coach. have you thought maybe that the players are crap...


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